My Ultimate RV Sewer System Modification

You may remember last year I gave the Waste Master RV Sewer System a full Love Your RV review. I was very impressed with the design and quality of the hose and connections. In the last year, it hasn’t failed to live up to my high expectations.

The only major beef I had with the sewer hose was the permanently attached 90-degree head, storage was an issue. It would not easily slide into the rear bumper like my old hose did. I ended up building a custom carrier for it mounted on top of the bumper. This arrangement worked well enough however I’ve since come to realize there may be a much better solution.

Current bumper sewer hose storage

Soon after my review was published I was contacted by Doug Swarts of DrainMaster.com. He is a long time RVer and the designer of the Waste Master Sewer System. Doug informed me he envisioned the sewer hose to be always hooked to the RV. Therefore it would be unnecessary to decouple it between campsites.  No more dribbling stinky slinky to deal with when breaking camp. The Waste Master hose would live in its own storage box or sleeve.

Waste Master Sewer Storage Solution

I was intrigued and accepted his invitation to drop by the Drain Master shop in Hollister, California for a look at a prototype storage solution he was working on. He explained how the parts would hook up underneath my Cougar fifth wheel and asked if I would like to give the mod a try. Of course, I would!

Building a Better RV Sewer System

The Plan

The plan was to mount an LCI (Lippert Components Inc.) plastic storage box about where the existing sewer output point was on my 2011 Keystone Cougar trailer. The LCI box is uniquely sized to store the Waste Master Sewer Hose with just one 180 degrees coil required. A hole would be cut in the side of the plastic box and the sewer hose would be connected to the RV’s main sewer output via its cam lock connector.

LCI storage box with prototype mounting brackets

To secure the storage box I would use a set of prototype metal brackets supplied by Drain Master designed to bolt onto the trailers steel I-Beam frame rail. I wanted the box located as close to the rear wheels as possible for best ground clearance but not under our slide out room. So, I picked my mounting location as close to the slide out as practical.

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A Hitch in the Plan

Everything seemed really easy until I took a gander under the Cougar. I instantly remembered the second drain pipe teeing into the main sewer drain from our RV galley tank. It’s located to the rear of the trailer meaning it would have to cross over the new storage box. I wanted the box sitting up snug to the Cougars belly for maximum ground clearance so routing the pipe over was a no go. Especially, if I wanted to maintain a downward drainage angle.

Galley Drain Pipe

I decided to reroute the 1 1/2 inch galley drain pipe around the back of the box. This, of course, created another issue. It would make removing the coroplast underbelly covering a complete pain since the other side is covered with the propane piping. Given my history of upgrades/mods and for future repairs I knew easy access to the guts of the beast is a must.

The solution I came up with was to use a piece of heavy duty flexible marine drain pipe used for large boat bilges. Each end would be held in place by a hose clamp allowing for quick removal and reinstallation.

Flexible Drain Hose

Let the RV Sewer System Mod Begin

The first thing I did was unscrew and cut a large section of the coroplast board underbelly out. I wanted plenty of room to work with. It would be re-screwed in place after the work was done and any seams sealed with 2.88″ wide Gorilla tape.

If you saw my blog post detailing my HepvO valve install you know plumbing is not my forte but I was still game, out came the hacksaw. I cut the main drain back enough to add on a new tee section and the Waste Master female cam lock. Then I crawled under the rig and cut off the galley drain a foot or so before it disappears into the underbelly.

Cut out plumbing section

I then whipped out the ABS cement and joined the new T section and female cam lock onto the main drain output. Then I cemented on two 1 1/2” couplers allowing me to screw in another pair of couplers which in turn let me attach the flexible drain hose with hose clamps. What a mouth full. I was starting to become good buddies with the Home Depot plumbing guy. 😉

New plumbing couplers and tee section

Gluing the plumbing parts

Next, I mounted the box by bolting it to the trailers I-beam frame rail. To secure it in place, even more, I ran a piece of plumber strap from an internal horizontal frame rail to the boxes rear support bracket. To the same rail, I added a hanger for the flex hose as it made its way behind the box. I then secured another hanger on another frame rail nearer to the galley tank output. Finally, I attached both ends of the flexible hose using hose clamps.

Galley drain hose and hangers

Looking at the mounted storage box under the rig

Added a Check Valve the Wrong Way

When the Waste Master hose is pulled out and extended suction is created. A check valve needs to be added to allow air into the system. I drilled out a hole in the ABS pipe then threaded/glued the special check valve in place. (Thanks to Doug at Drain Master for kindly providing me one)

The check valve should be installed vertically above the pipe for best operation. I messed up and forgot to install it before the pipe was glued on. Doh! Leaving myself insufficient space to drill the hole. I had to install the check valve on an angle.

Check Valve Installed

Another Problem to Solve

I ran into another snag when I went to line up the newly attached female cam lock to the male end of the Waster Master hose. The design Doug showed me had the hose entering the box perpendicularly. This allows the rugged plastic collar of the hose end to be against the plastic edges of the entrance hole and the cam lock levers to function properly. Unfortunately, since I had previously cemented the female cam lock close to an ABS elbow I was going to be entering the box at an angle.

So, instead of the plastic collar against the thin plastic edge a section of the inner membrane would be. As to not damage this membrane, I added a sponge gasket for protection. It’s actually a sponge toilet bowl gasket! I took a utility knife and cut a groove around it and placed it the boxes hole as a makeshift grommet. It turned out to be a great idea I think. 🙂

 

It’s always fun trying to custom build something, isn’t it? But at least others get to learn from my mistakes. As soon as I can get hold of a new female cam lock connection I’ll correct these errors by redoing the plumbing between the rigs main sewer output and the hose storage box.

Video Detailing the RV Sewer System Mod

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Very Happy With the New Sewer System

I have to say this mod is a great success. Why the heck don’t RVs come this way? Now when it’s time to dump the waste tanks it’s a breeze. Even my squeamish wife Anne will want to partake in the dumping duties. Well, maybe not, haha. But at least if I’m away and she *really* has to do the deed it won’t be such a nasty task.

Now, we just open up the new sewer hose storage box. Pull out the Waste Master nozzle and stick it in the sewer hole. Then flip open the valves and let her rip. Once the job is done, close the valves and place the hose back in its box. No muss no fuss.

It’s so much more sanitary compared to what we have traditionally been offered by the RV manufacturers. It’s about time we RVers demand they improve this part of RVing.

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